As explained in the most recent rankings post, our new player valuations are based on the indefetigable work of 8 veteran Kentucky Fried GMs (myself included). Drafting in a predetermined (snaked) order we would each select the best availalbe player (in our personal opinion) regardless of position... the initial order was Schottsie, broham, Colonel, Doug, DLBass, Youngod, ZZRay, Ciwasko... (incidentally this order lasted exactly 5 rounds before we re-optimized for the various timezones represented by the volunteer rankers).
Eight days and 322 emails later we had our latest rankings.
Here's a closer look at what happened over the first 5 rounds:
Round 1
| Round |
NewRank |
FirstName |
LastName |
NBATeamCity |
NBATeamMascot |
KFAvgYTD |
Old Rank |
Drafter |
| 1 |
1 |
LeBron |
James |
Cleveland |
Cavaliers |
1.238 |
1 |
Schottsie |
| 1 |
2 |
Dwyane |
Wade |
Miami |
Heat |
1.213 |
2 |
Broham |
| 1 |
3 |
Dwight |
Howard |
Orlando |
Magic |
1.126 |
3 |
Colonel |
| 1 |
4 |
Chris |
Paul |
New Orleans |
Hornets |
1.113 |
4 |
Doug |
| 1 |
5 |
Kobe |
Bryant |
Los Angeles |
Lakers |
1.092 |
5 |
DLBass |
| 1 |
6 |
Tim |
Duncan |
San Antonio |
Spurs |
1.078 |
6 |
YoungGod |
| 1 |
7 |
Carmelo |
Anthony |
Denver |
Nuggets |
1.013 |
7 |
ZZRay |
| 1 |
8 |
Dirk |
Nowitzki |
Dallas |
Mavericks |
1.026 |
8 |
Ciwasko |
| 1 |
9 |
Al |
Jefferson |
Minnesota |
Timberwolves |
1.051 |
9 |
Ciwasko |
| 1 |
10 |
Danny |
Granger |
Indiana |
Pacers |
1.010 |
10 |
ZZRay |
| 1 |
11 |
Chris |
Bosh |
Toronto |
Raptors |
0.986 |
11 |
YoungGod |
| 1 |
12 |
Tony |
Parker |
San Antonio |
Spurs |
0.979 |
17 |
DLBass |
| 1 |
13 |
Kevin |
Durant |
Seattle |
Supersonics |
0.946 |
12 |
Doug |
| 1 |
14 |
Amare |
Stoudemire |
Phoenix |
Suns |
0.922 |
15 |
Colonel |
| 1 |
15 |
Deron |
Williams |
Utah |
Jazz |
0.946 |
14 |
Broham |
| 1 |
16 |
Kevin |
Garnett |
Boston |
Celtics |
0.951 |
16 |
Schottsie |
The first 11 players were selected in exactly the same order they had been previously ranked in, proving either the infallability of the Colonels judgement (and mine) or the subconcious weight default rankings place on unsuspecting drafters.
The first surprise was Tony Parker moving up to the 12th spot. Its tough to argue against it since Parker did post a surprising .979 last season (higher than the next 4 selections), thereby leading many a team to a Kentucky Fried title matchup. The contrarian would point out that Ginobili was out for the much of the year and that Parker might have trouble replicating these numbers unless he remains one of the focal points of the offense. But there are no guarantees Ginobili will stay healthy next season (or that Timmy Duncan will for that matter) and Parker is the only one of the three entering his prime. Also the general consensus is that there is a lack of quality guards at the top of the KF scoreboard (i.e. he has a higher differential over replacement value than Durant or Stoudemire).
Kevin Durant only moved up one spot but could have easily been selected 10th (and would have if it was up Doug at that point).
Schottsie originally drafted Shaq to complete the 1st round, but since he had 1st round keeper rights to Shaq in the Original Recipe (and the unofficial rule was to stay away from your own OR keepers), the Colonel swapped him with Schottsies next pick (17th overall), Kevin Garnett.
Round 2
| Round |
NewRank |
FirstName |
LastName |
NBATeamCity |
NBATeamMascot |
KFAvgYTD |
Old Rank |
Drafter |
| 2 |
17 |
Shaquille |
O'Neal |
Cleveland |
Cavaliers |
1.014 |
18 |
Schottsie |
| 2 |
18 |
Brandon |
Roy |
Portland |
Trail Blazers |
0.922 |
21 |
Broham |
| 2 |
19 |
Zach |
Randolph |
Memphis |
Grizzlies |
0.986 |
19 |
Colonel |
| 2 |
20 |
Pau |
Gasol |
Los Angeles |
Lakers |
0.922 |
25 |
Doug |
| 2 |
21 |
Carlos |
Boozer |
Utah |
Jazz |
0.941 |
22 |
DLBass |
| 2 |
22 |
Devin |
Harris |
New Jersey |
Nets |
0.936 |
20 |
YoungGod |
| 2 |
23 |
Charlie |
Villanueva |
Detroit |
Pistons |
0.986 |
28 |
ZZRay |
| 2 |
24 |
Andris |
Biedrins |
Golden State |
Warriors |
0.932 |
24 |
Ciwasko |
| 2 |
25 |
Emmanuel |
Ginobili |
San Antonio |
Spurs |
0.967 |
23 |
Ciwasko |
| 2 |
26 |
Gilbert |
Arenas |
Washington |
Wizards |
0.903 |
37 |
ZZRay |
| 2 |
27 |
Andrew |
Bynum |
Los Angeles |
Lakers |
0.907 |
26 |
YoungGod |
| 2 |
28 |
Steve |
Nash |
Phoenix |
Suns |
0.884 |
27 |
DLBass |
| 2 |
29 |
Vince |
Carter |
Orlando |
Magic |
0.881 |
29 |
Doug |
| 2 |
30 |
Kevin |
Martin |
Sacramento |
Kings |
0.856 |
30 |
Colonel |
| 2 |
31 |
David |
Lee |
New York |
Knickerbockers |
0.905 |
31 |
Broham |
| 2 |
32 |
Kevin |
Love |
Minnesota |
Timberwolves |
0.898 |
35 |
Schottsie |
The biggest mover in the 2nd round was Gilbert Arenas who jumped 11 spots from the preliminary rankings thanks to ZZRay... It's a high risk, high reward move. Though its tough to argue that he's riskier than GInobili and recent reports from new coach Flip Saunders suggest that Arenas is in good shape and (quoting Flip) "ready to reclaim his spot amongst the Kentucky Fried big boys".
Nobody selected in the 2nd round dropped more than a couple of spots from their previous rankings (thanks to a couple of preliminary 3rd rounders sneaking in, and perhaps again, to the powerful weight awarded to default rankings, no matter how whimsical).
| Round |
NewRank |
FirstName |
LastName |
NBATeamCity |
NBATeamMascot |
KFAvgYTD |
Old Rank |
Drafter |
| 3 |
33 |
Marcus |
Camby |
Los Angeles |
Clippers |
0.866 |
32 |
Schottsie |
| 3 |
34 |
Russell |
Westbrook |
Oklahoma City |
Thunder |
0.846 |
36 |
Broham |
| 3 |
35 |
Antawn |
Jamison |
Washington |
Wizards |
0.915 |
33 |
Colonel |
| 3 |
36 |
Paul |
Millsap |
Utah |
Jazz |
0.874 |
40 |
Doug |
| 3 |
37 |
David |
West |
New Orleans |
Hornets |
0.860 |
42 |
DLBass |
| 3 |
38 |
Michael |
Beasley |
Miami |
Heat |
0.876 |
47 |
YoungGod |
| 3 |
39 |
Greg |
Oden |
Portland |
Trail Blazers |
0.851 |
39 |
ZZRay |
| 3 |
40 |
Baron |
Davis |
Los Angeles |
Clippers |
0.833 |
34 |
Ciwasko |
| 3 |
41 |
Elton |
Brand |
Philadelphia |
76ers |
0.830 |
43 |
Ciwasko |
| 3 |
42 |
Paul |
Pierce |
Boston |
Celtics |
0.840 |
41 |
ZZRay |
| 3 |
43 |
Joe |
Johnson |
Atlanta |
Hawks |
0.839 |
38 |
YoungGod |
| 3 |
44 |
Anthony |
Randolph |
Golden State |
Warriors |
0.934 |
45 |
DLBass |
| 3 |
45 |
Josh |
Smith |
Atlanta |
Hawks |
0.815 |
46 |
Doug |
| 3 |
46 |
Stephen |
Jackson |
Golden State |
Warriors |
0.876 |
44 |
Colonel |
| 3 |
47 |
Caron |
Butler |
Washington |
Wizards |
0.871 |
50 |
Broham |
| 3 |
48 |
Rajon |
Rondo |
Boston |
Celtics |
0.841 |
49 |
Schottsie |
The biggest climber in the 3rd round was Michael Beasly (who escalated 9 positions from his previous spot). Tough to argue against the call... Beasly did post a beastly .876 in his rookie season and wasn't even that good (trust me i watched a bunch of MIA games and dude looked lost about half the time he was out there). But coming into year 2 he now has a little more experience under his belt (at least i hope) and is playing for a team that desperatly needs some offensive help for Dwyane Wade and is determined not to bring in anyone that could sabotage their 2010 salary cap clearing efforts. He's going to have every opportunity in the world to turn into a star next season. Still a risky bet.
Best Pick: Baron Davis... Yes he is a malcontent, injury-prone whiner, playing for the worst franchise in sports, in the most distracting city in the country, for what is by all accounts a terrible coach that he does not get along with. But there is considerable upside here. Baron is easily motivated when he's playing on a winning team (and by winning i mean .500 with a shot at the playoffs, which the Clippers should be, and probably should have been last year). And his averages, historically, suggest last season's production was an anomoly, not the norm:
http://www.kfba.net/kfba/WebModules/Players/Player.aspx?PlayerID=53
| Season | Mins | KFP | KFAvg | 1st Half | 2nd Half | Playoffs | High | Low | Variance | APS |
| 1999-00 |
1523 |
1076 |
0.707 |
|
|
|
|
|
|
|
| 2000-01 |
3192 |
2343 |
0.734 |
|
|
|
|
|
|
|
| 2001-02 |
3321 |
2750 |
0.828 |
|
|
|
|
|
|
|
| 2002-03 |
1889 |
1475 |
0.781 |
0.762 |
0.691 |
0.854 |
0.889 |
0.000 |
.132 |
18.99 |
| 2003-04 |
2684 |
2505 |
0.933 |
0.968 |
0.885 |
0.949 |
1.091 |
0.000 |
.057 |
31.49 |
| 2004-05 |
1581 |
1517 |
0.960 |
0.996 |
0.872 |
1.000 |
1.471 |
0.000 |
.260 |
18.28 |
| 2005-06 |
1950 |
1786 |
0.916 |
0.897 |
0.941 |
0.000 |
1.051 |
0.000 |
.145 |
26.38 |
| 2006-07 |
2187 |
2213 |
1.012 |
1.001 |
0.976 |
1.098 |
1.145 |
0.000 |
.141 |
30.94 |
| 2007-08 |
3101 |
2987 |
0.963 |
0.997 |
0.939 |
0.948 |
1.158 |
0.746 |
.016 |
34.58 |
| 2008-09 |
2220 |
1850 |
0.833 |
0.853 |
0.835 |
0.828 |
0.939 |
0.000 |
.098 |
25.51 |
Worst pick: Stephen Jackson. Conversly, the numbers Stephen Jackson put up last season are completely out of or porportion with his mid .700 historical averages. And yes he is a ball hog on a run and gun team playing 4 positions for a mad-scientist scoring-obsessed coach... but last year Monta Ellis and Corey Magette missed considerable parts of the season. This year they've added Stephen Curry (out of whom much appears to be expected) and they still have a sea of D-league and 2nd round finds (Kelenna Azuibuike, Anthony Morrow) and developing 1st round talent (Anthony Randolph, Brandan Wright and Monta) waiting around to take his spot (and shots).
http://www.kfba.net/kfba/WebModules/Players/Player.aspx?PlayerID=259
| Season | Mins | KFP | KFAvg | 1st Half | 2nd Half | Playoffs | High | Low | Variance | APS |
| 2000-01 |
1660 |
1083 |
0.652 |
|
|
|
|
|
|
|
| 2001-02 |
228 |
144 |
0.632 |
|
|
|
|
|
|
|
| 2002-03 |
2254 |
1570 |
0.697 |
0.720 |
0.696 |
0.679 |
1.085 |
0.531 |
.015 |
25.88 |
| 2003-04 |
2940 |
2226 |
0.757 |
0.620 |
0.757 |
0.922 |
0.973 |
0.549 |
.020 |
26.19 |
| 2004-05 |
1806 |
1400 |
0.775 |
0.647 |
0.820 |
0.809 |
1.059 |
0.000 |
.176 |
15.62 |
| 2005-06 |
2870 |
2013 |
0.701 |
0.616 |
0.771 |
0.687 |
0.954 |
0.521 |
.015 |
24.97 |
| 2006-07 |
2444 |
1788 |
0.732 |
0.669 |
0.723 |
0.839 |
0.903 |
0.000 |
.037 |
24.47 |
| 2007-08 |
2767 |
2159 |
0.780 |
0.808 |
0.806 |
0.702 |
0.938 |
0.000 |
.039 |
26.83 |
| 2008-09 |
2313 |
2026 |
0.876 |
0.786 |
0.960 |
0.899 |
1.100 |
0.000 |
.056 |
29.68 |
4th Round
| Round |
NewRank |
FirstName |
LastName |
NBATeamCity |
NBATeamMascot |
KFAvgYTD |
Old Rank |
Drafter |
| 4 |
49 |
Blake |
Griffin |
Los Angeles |
Clippers |
0.000 |
71 |
Schottsie |
| 4 |
50 |
Jameer |
Nelson |
Orlando |
Magic |
0.873 |
51 |
Broham |
| 4 |
51 |
Troy |
Murphy |
Indiana |
Pacers |
0.887 |
52 |
Colonel |
| 4 |
52 |
Brook |
Lopez |
New Jersey |
Nets |
0.819 |
54 |
Doug |
| 4 |
53 |
Corey |
Maggette |
Golden State |
Warriors |
0.882 |
63 |
DLBass |
| 4 |
54 |
Monta |
Ellis |
Golden State |
Warriors |
0.821 |
48 |
YoungGod |
| 4 |
55 |
Mehmet |
Okur |
Utah |
Jazz |
0.847 |
53 |
ZZRay |
| 4 |
56 |
Nate |
Robinson |
New York |
Knickerbockers |
0.906 |
55 |
Ciwasko |
| 4 |
57 |
Zydrunas |
Ilgauskas |
Cleveland |
Cavaliers |
0.867 |
56 |
Ciwasko |
| 4 |
58 |
Chauncey |
Billups |
Denver |
Nuggets |
0.821 |
58 |
ZZRay |
| 4 |
59 |
JR |
Smith |
Denver |
Nuggets |
0.839 |
57 |
YoungGod |
| 4 |
60 |
Leandrinho |
Barbosa |
Phoenix |
Suns |
0.857 |
59 |
DLBass |
| 4 |
61 |
LaMarcus |
Aldridge |
Portland |
Trail Blazers |
0.807 |
61 |
Doug |
| 4 |
62 |
Brad |
Miller |
Chicago |
Bulls |
0.821 |
62 |
Colonel |
| 4 |
63 |
Andrew |
Bogut |
Milwaukee |
Bucks |
0.835 |
65 |
Broham |
| 4 |
64 |
Al |
Harrington |
New York |
Knickerbockers |
0.851 |
66 |
Schottsie |
Blake Griffin is clearly the biggest jumper of the mock draft through the first 4 rounds. Perhaps rightly so, as the Colonel and I tend to undervalue rookies. Schottsie's thinking behind the pick is that if you have the 1st selection of the 4th round, you can't pass on this potential 2nd rounder keeper for next season. And really what's the downside? Low 800 production? The kid is big and strong and is going to be a rebounding force in the National Basketball Association for years to come (i dare you to doubt me!). He demonstrated a high basketball IQ during the summer league and the Clippers, fully understanding that the future of their franchise rests on his shoulders, will be looking to fast track his development and will FORCE FEED him the ball like a starving bastard child. If a knucklehead like Beasly can milk an .867 out of Miami, I can't imagine what a true talent like Griffin might be able to do in the LAC.
Best pick: Doug knows what he's doing and i think Brook Lopez is just a great selection here. He's going to be a really good NBA player and as a rebounding, low post scoring big man, thats going to equate to some delicous KF averages. For his rookie season he grabbed 8 boards/game, in just 30 minutes, and shot 79% from the line to go along with a healthy 53% from the field. His average rose throughout the season to boot (just .757 in the 1st half) and with Vince Carter gone, the swampies are going to be desperate for scoring (capital D desperate! Yi Yianlin? Bobby Simmons? Josh Boone? You must be kidding). I fully expect that offense to be a two man game played off of Devin Harris and Brook Lopez and if Lopez doesn't parlay that into a .900 I'll be midly surprised...
Round 5
| Round |
NewRank |
FirstName |
LastName |
NBATeamCity |
NBATeamMascot |
KFAvgYTD |
Old Rank |
Drafter |
| 5 |
65 |
TJ |
Ford |
Indiana |
Pacers |
0.838 |
67 |
Schottsie |
| 5 |
66 |
Josh |
Howard |
Dallas |
Mavericks |
0.835 |
60 |
Broham |
| 5 |
67 |
Drew |
Gooden |
Free Agent |
|
0.857 |
68 |
Colonel |
| 5 |
68 |
Derrick |
Rose |
Chicago |
Bulls |
0.769 |
73 |
Doug |
| 5 |
69 |
Lamar |
Odom |
Los Angeles |
Lakers |
0.834 |
70 |
DLBass |
| 5 |
70 |
Emeka |
Okafor |
Charlotte |
Bobcats |
0.811 |
76 |
YoungGod |
| 5 |
71 |
Nene |
Hilario |
Denver |
Nuggets |
0.819 |
74 |
ZZRay |
| 5 |
72 |
Chris |
Kaman |
Los Angeles |
Clippers |
0.802 |
64 |
Ciwasko |
| 5 |
73 |
Ramon |
Sessions |
Milwaukee |
Bucks |
0.836 |
84 |
Ciwasko |
| 5 |
74 |
Andre |
Iguodala |
Philadelphia |
76ers |
0.808 |
69 |
ZZRay |
| 5 |
75 |
Michael |
Redd |
Milwaukee |
Bucks |
0.784 |
75 |
YoungGod |
| 5 |
76 |
Ben |
Gordon |
Detroit |
Pistons |
0.796 |
82 |
DLBass |
| 5 |
77 |
Al |
Horford |
Atlanta |
Hawks |
0.774 |
81 |
Doug |
| 5 |
78 |
Allen |
Iverson |
Detroit |
Pistons |
0.748 |
79 |
Colonel |
| 5 |
79 |
Jermaine |
O'Neal |
Miami |
Heat |
0.814 |
78 |
Broham |
| 5 |
80 |
Jason |
Terry |
Dallas |
Mavericks |
0.812 |
77 |
Schottsie |
The biggest riser in the 5th was Ramon Sessions (jumping 11 spots).... While his average certainly justifies being drafted above his roundmates and the possibility of playing in Mike D"Antoni's offense is certainly appetizing, i feel like there might be a little bit of fools gold to him. I've been a fan, but now we're drafting a guy that wasn't able to beat Luke Ridnour out of the staring point guard job and that teams aren't exactly coming after guns ablaze, offering 50m, 5 yr contracts to, in the 5th round? Ridnour and his .691 went completely undrafted (and he ended up placed a 291). Not saying the averages are comparable, just that what we're enfatuated with here is possibility not certifiable talent. To put it another way, Jason Kidd wasn't drafted until the 8th round.
Worst Pick: Drew Gooden. Yes he's a reliable .800, but dude is playing backup to Dirk Nowitzki, Shawn Marion and Josh Howard... I think you have to have some reasonable level of confidence your 5th round selection is going to get minutes. While we're ragging on the Colonel, jury's certainly still out on Iverson as well, who as of this moment has no team to call his own.
What say you?
Posted
08-13-2009 7:11 PM
by
broham