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New Rankings: Reviewing the Top 5 Rounds

As explained in the most recent rankings post, our new player valuations are based on the indefetigable work of 8 veteran Kentucky Fried GMs (myself included).   Drafting in a predetermined (snaked) order we would each select the best availalbe player (in our personal opinion) regardless of position...  the initial order was Schottsie, broham, Colonel, Doug, DLBass, Youngod, ZZRay, Ciwasko... (incidentally this order lasted exactly 5 rounds before we re-optimized for the various timezones represented by the volunteer rankers).

Eight days and 322 emails later we had our latest rankings.

Here's a closer look at what happened over the first 5 rounds:

Round 1

Round NewRank FirstName LastName NBATeamCity NBATeamMascot KFAvgYTD Old Rank Drafter
1 1 LeBron James Cleveland Cavaliers 1.238 1 Schottsie
1 2 Dwyane Wade Miami Heat 1.213 2 Broham
1 3 Dwight Howard Orlando Magic 1.126 3 Colonel
1 4 Chris Paul New Orleans Hornets 1.113 4 Doug
1 5 Kobe Bryant Los Angeles Lakers 1.092 5 DLBass
1 6 Tim Duncan San Antonio Spurs 1.078 6 YoungGod
1 7 Carmelo Anthony Denver Nuggets 1.013 7 ZZRay
1 8 Dirk Nowitzki Dallas Mavericks 1.026 8 Ciwasko
1 9 Al Jefferson Minnesota Timberwolves 1.051 9 Ciwasko
1 10 Danny Granger Indiana Pacers 1.010 10 ZZRay
1 11 Chris Bosh Toronto Raptors 0.986 11 YoungGod
1 12 Tony Parker San Antonio Spurs 0.979 17 DLBass
1 13 Kevin Durant Seattle Supersonics 0.946 12 Doug
1 14 Amare Stoudemire Phoenix Suns 0.922 15 Colonel
1 15 Deron Williams Utah Jazz 0.946 14 Broham
1 16 Kevin Garnett Boston Celtics 0.951 16 Schottsie

 

The first 11 players were selected in exactly the same order they had been previously ranked in, proving either the infallability of the Colonels judgement (and mine) or the subconcious weight default rankings place on unsuspecting drafters.

The first surprise was Tony Parker moving up to the 12th spot.   Its tough to argue against it since Parker did post a surprising .979 last season (higher than the next 4 selections), thereby leading many a team to a Kentucky Fried title matchup.  The contrarian would point out that Ginobili was out for the much of the year and that Parker might have trouble replicating these numbers unless he remains one of the focal points of the offense.   But there are no guarantees Ginobili will stay healthy next season (or that Timmy Duncan will for that matter) and Parker is the only one of the three entering his prime.   Also the general consensus is that there is a lack of quality guards at the top of the KF scoreboard (i.e. he has a higher differential over replacement value than Durant or Stoudemire).

Kevin Durant only moved up one spot but could have easily been selected 10th (and would have if it was up Doug at that point).

Schottsie originally drafted Shaq to complete the 1st round, but since he had 1st round keeper rights to Shaq in the Original Recipe (and the unofficial rule was to stay away from your own OR keepers), the Colonel swapped him with Schottsies next pick (17th overall), Kevin Garnett.

 

Round 2

Round NewRank FirstName LastName NBATeamCity NBATeamMascot KFAvgYTD Old Rank Drafter
2 17 Shaquille O'Neal Cleveland Cavaliers 1.014 18 Schottsie
2 18 Brandon Roy Portland Trail Blazers 0.922 21 Broham
2 19 Zach Randolph Memphis Grizzlies 0.986 19 Colonel
2 20 Pau Gasol Los Angeles Lakers 0.922 25 Doug
2 21 Carlos Boozer Utah Jazz 0.941 22 DLBass
2 22 Devin Harris New Jersey Nets 0.936 20 YoungGod
2 23 Charlie Villanueva Detroit Pistons 0.986 28 ZZRay
2 24 Andris Biedrins Golden State Warriors 0.932 24 Ciwasko
2 25 Emmanuel Ginobili San Antonio Spurs 0.967 23 Ciwasko
2 26 Gilbert Arenas Washington Wizards 0.903 37 ZZRay
2 27 Andrew Bynum Los Angeles Lakers 0.907 26 YoungGod
2 28 Steve Nash Phoenix Suns 0.884 27 DLBass
2 29 Vince Carter Orlando Magic 0.881 29 Doug
2 30 Kevin Martin Sacramento Kings 0.856 30 Colonel
2 31 David Lee New York Knickerbockers 0.905 31 Broham
2 32 Kevin Love Minnesota Timberwolves 0.898 35 Schottsie

The biggest mover in the 2nd round was Gilbert Arenas who jumped 11 spots from the preliminary rankings thanks to ZZRay... It's a high risk, high reward move.  Though its tough to argue that he's riskier than GInobili and recent reports from new coach Flip Saunders suggest that Arenas is in good shape and (quoting Flip) "ready to reclaim his spot amongst the Kentucky Fried big boys".

Nobody selected in the 2nd round dropped more than a couple of spots from their previous rankings (thanks to a couple of preliminary 3rd rounders sneaking in, and perhaps again, to the powerful weight awarded to default rankings, no matter how whimsical).

Round NewRank FirstName LastName NBATeamCity NBATeamMascot KFAvgYTD Old Rank Drafter
3 33 Marcus Camby Los Angeles Clippers 0.866 32 Schottsie
3 34 Russell Westbrook Oklahoma City Thunder 0.846 36 Broham
3 35 Antawn Jamison Washington Wizards 0.915 33 Colonel
3 36 Paul Millsap Utah Jazz 0.874 40 Doug
3 37 David West New Orleans Hornets 0.860 42 DLBass
3 38 Michael Beasley Miami Heat 0.876 47 YoungGod
3 39 Greg Oden Portland Trail Blazers 0.851 39 ZZRay
3 40 Baron Davis Los Angeles Clippers 0.833 34 Ciwasko
3 41 Elton Brand Philadelphia 76ers 0.830 43 Ciwasko
3 42 Paul Pierce Boston Celtics 0.840 41 ZZRay
3 43 Joe Johnson Atlanta Hawks 0.839 38 YoungGod
3 44 Anthony Randolph Golden State Warriors 0.934 45 DLBass
3 45 Josh Smith Atlanta Hawks 0.815 46 Doug
3 46 Stephen Jackson Golden State Warriors 0.876 44 Colonel
3 47 Caron Butler Washington Wizards 0.871 50 Broham
3 48 Rajon Rondo Boston Celtics 0.841 49 Schottsie

The biggest climber in the 3rd round was Michael Beasly (who escalated 9 positions from his previous spot).   Tough to argue against the call... Beasly did post a beastly .876 in his rookie season and wasn't even that good (trust me i watched a bunch of MIA games and dude looked lost about half the time he was out there).  But coming into year 2 he now has a little more experience under his belt (at least i hope) and is playing for a team that desperatly needs some offensive help for Dwyane Wade and is determined not to bring in anyone that could sabotage their 2010 salary cap clearing efforts.  He's going to have every opportunity in the world to turn into a star next season.   Still a risky bet.

Best Pick: Baron Davis... Yes he is a malcontent, injury-prone whiner, playing for the worst franchise in sports, in the most distracting city in the country, for what is by all accounts a terrible coach that he does not get along with.  But there is considerable upside here.  Baron is easily motivated when he's playing on a winning team (and by winning i mean .500 with a shot at the playoffs, which the Clippers should be, and probably should have been last year).  And his averages, historically, suggest last season's production was an anomoly, not the norm:

http://www.kfba.net/kfba/WebModules/Players/Player.aspx?PlayerID=53

SeasonMinsKFPKFAvg1st Half2nd HalfPlayoffsHighLowVarianceAPS
1999-00 1523 1076 0.707
2000-01 3192 2343 0.734
2001-02 3321 2750 0.828
2002-03 1889 1475 0.781 0.762 0.691 0.854 0.889 0.000 .132 18.99
2003-04 2684 2505 0.933 0.968 0.885 0.949 1.091 0.000 .057 31.49
2004-05 1581 1517 0.960 0.996 0.872 1.000 1.471 0.000 .260 18.28
2005-06 1950 1786 0.916 0.897 0.941 0.000 1.051 0.000 .145 26.38
2006-07 2187 2213 1.012 1.001 0.976 1.098 1.145 0.000 .141 30.94
2007-08 3101 2987 0.963 0.997 0.939 0.948 1.158 0.746 .016 34.58
2008-09 2220 1850 0.833 0.853 0.835 0.828 0.939 0.000 .098 25.51

Worst pick: Stephen Jackson.   Conversly, the numbers Stephen Jackson put up last season are completely out of or porportion with his mid .700 historical averages.  And yes he is a ball hog on a run and gun team playing 4 positions for a mad-scientist scoring-obsessed coach... but last year Monta Ellis and Corey Magette missed considerable parts of the season.  This year they've added Stephen Curry (out of whom much appears to be expected) and they still have a sea of D-league and 2nd round finds (Kelenna Azuibuike, Anthony Morrow) and developing 1st round talent (Anthony Randolph, Brandan Wright and Monta) waiting around to take his spot (and shots).

http://www.kfba.net/kfba/WebModules/Players/Player.aspx?PlayerID=259

SeasonMinsKFPKFAvg1st Half2nd HalfPlayoffsHighLowVarianceAPS
2000-01 1660 1083 0.652
2001-02 228 144 0.632
2002-03 2254 1570 0.697 0.720 0.696 0.679 1.085 0.531 .015 25.88
2003-04 2940 2226 0.757 0.620 0.757 0.922 0.973 0.549 .020 26.19
2004-05 1806 1400 0.775 0.647 0.820 0.809 1.059 0.000 .176 15.62
2005-06 2870 2013 0.701 0.616 0.771 0.687 0.954 0.521 .015 24.97
2006-07 2444 1788 0.732 0.669 0.723 0.839 0.903 0.000 .037 24.47
2007-08 2767 2159 0.780 0.808 0.806 0.702 0.938 0.000 .039 26.83
2008-09 2313 2026 0.876 0.786 0.960 0.899 1.100 0.000 .056 29.68

 

4th Round

Round NewRank FirstName LastName NBATeamCity NBATeamMascot KFAvgYTD Old Rank Drafter
4 49 Blake Griffin Los Angeles Clippers 0.000 71 Schottsie
4 50 Jameer Nelson Orlando Magic 0.873 51 Broham
4 51 Troy Murphy Indiana Pacers 0.887 52 Colonel
4 52 Brook Lopez New Jersey Nets 0.819 54 Doug
4 53 Corey Maggette Golden State Warriors 0.882 63 DLBass
4 54 Monta Ellis Golden State Warriors 0.821 48 YoungGod
4 55 Mehmet Okur Utah Jazz 0.847 53 ZZRay
4 56 Nate Robinson New York Knickerbockers 0.906 55 Ciwasko
4 57 Zydrunas Ilgauskas Cleveland Cavaliers 0.867 56 Ciwasko
4 58 Chauncey Billups Denver Nuggets 0.821 58 ZZRay
4 59 JR Smith Denver Nuggets 0.839 57 YoungGod
4 60 Leandrinho Barbosa Phoenix Suns 0.857 59 DLBass
4 61 LaMarcus Aldridge Portland Trail Blazers 0.807 61 Doug
4 62 Brad Miller Chicago Bulls 0.821 62 Colonel
4 63 Andrew Bogut Milwaukee Bucks 0.835 65 Broham
4 64 Al Harrington New York Knickerbockers 0.851 66 Schottsie

Blake Griffin is clearly the biggest jumper of the mock draft through the first 4 rounds. Perhaps rightly so, as the Colonel and I tend to undervalue rookies.   Schottsie's thinking behind the pick is that if you have the 1st selection of the 4th round, you can't pass on this potential 2nd rounder keeper for next season.  And really what's the downside?  Low 800 production?   The kid is big and strong and is going to be a rebounding force in the National Basketball Association for years to come (i dare you to doubt me!). He demonstrated a high basketball IQ during the summer league and the Clippers, fully understanding that the future of their franchise rests on his shoulders, will be looking to fast track his development and will FORCE FEED him the ball like a starving bastard child.  If a knucklehead like Beasly can milk an .867 out of Miami, I can't imagine what a true talent like Griffin might be able to do in the LAC.

Best pick: Doug knows what he's doing and i think Brook Lopez is just a great selection here.  He's going to be a really good NBA player and as a rebounding, low post scoring big man, thats going to equate to some delicous KF averages.   For his rookie season he grabbed 8 boards/game, in just 30 minutes, and shot 79% from the line to go along with a healthy 53% from the field.  His average rose throughout the season to boot (just .757 in the 1st half) and with Vince Carter gone, the swampies are going to be desperate for scoring (capital D desperate!  Yi Yianlin?  Bobby Simmons?  Josh Boone?  You must be kidding).  I fully expect that offense to be a two man game played off of Devin Harris and Brook Lopez and if Lopez doesn't parlay that into a .900 I'll be midly surprised...

 

Round 5

Round NewRank FirstName LastName NBATeamCity NBATeamMascot KFAvgYTD Old Rank Drafter
5 65 TJ Ford Indiana Pacers 0.838 67 Schottsie
5 66 Josh Howard Dallas Mavericks 0.835 60 Broham
5 67 Drew Gooden Free Agent 0.857 68 Colonel
5 68 Derrick Rose Chicago Bulls 0.769 73 Doug
5 69 Lamar Odom Los Angeles Lakers 0.834 70 DLBass
5 70 Emeka Okafor Charlotte Bobcats 0.811 76 YoungGod
5 71 Nene Hilario Denver Nuggets 0.819 74 ZZRay
5 72 Chris Kaman Los Angeles Clippers 0.802 64 Ciwasko
5 73 Ramon Sessions Milwaukee Bucks 0.836 84 Ciwasko
5 74 Andre Iguodala Philadelphia 76ers 0.808 69 ZZRay
5 75 Michael Redd Milwaukee Bucks 0.784 75 YoungGod
5 76 Ben Gordon Detroit Pistons 0.796 82 DLBass
5 77 Al Horford Atlanta Hawks 0.774 81 Doug
5 78 Allen Iverson Detroit Pistons 0.748 79 Colonel
5 79 Jermaine O'Neal Miami Heat 0.814 78 Broham
5 80 Jason Terry Dallas Mavericks 0.812 77 Schottsie

 

The biggest riser in the 5th was Ramon Sessions (jumping 11 spots).... While his average certainly justifies being drafted above his roundmates and the possibility of playing in Mike D"Antoni's offense is certainly appetizing, i feel like there might be a little bit of fools gold to him.  I've been a fan, but now we're drafting a guy that wasn't able to beat Luke Ridnour out of the staring point guard job and that teams aren't exactly coming after guns ablaze, offering 50m, 5 yr contracts to, in the 5th round?  Ridnour and his .691 went completely undrafted (and he ended up placed a 291).   Not saying the averages are comparable, just that what we're enfatuated with here is possibility not certifiable talent.   To put it another way, Jason Kidd wasn't drafted until the 8th round.

Worst Pick: Drew Gooden.  Yes he's a reliable .800, but dude is playing backup to Dirk Nowitzki, Shawn Marion and Josh Howard... I think you have to have some reasonable level of confidence your 5th round selection is going to get minutes.  While we're ragging on the Colonel, jury's certainly still out on Iverson as well, who as of this moment has no team to call his own.

What say you?


Posted 08-13-2009 7:11 PM by broham

Comments

schottsie wrote re: New Rankings: Reviewing the Top 5 Rounds
on 08-14-2009 7:20 AM

Great recap - can't wait for the next one.  Reading the analysis is much more fun than the actual draft was!  Also curious how Blair-gate shakes out...

The Broham's Blog wrote Reviewing the Rankings - Rounds 6, 7, 8 and 9
on 08-14-2009 10:42 AM

A quick recap of the rankings methodology: "...new player valuations are based on the indefetigable

The Broham's Blog wrote Blair Gate - The New Rankings rounds 10, 11 and 12
on 08-18-2009 2:32 PM

For those of you that have been MIA this last week, we just updated the site with some corn-fed farm

jules wrote re: New Rankings: Reviewing the Top 5 Rounds
on 08-20-2009 7:40 AM

I'm doing my draft Broham style this year, can get any worse!

The Broham's Blog wrote Reviewing the Rankings Mock - Final Three
on 08-20-2009 12:49 PM

Welcome to the fourth and final installment of our August 2009 Rankings reivew. "Player valuations